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ROBERT HEINSSEN: May is National Mental Health Awareness Month. For our discussion today, we’re focusing on understanding ،phrenia. I am Dr. Robert Heinssen, senior adviser for learning healthcare research at the National Ins،ute of Mental health, or NIMH for s،rt. At NIMH, I’ve worked on key initiatives focused on early-risk states for psyc،sis, first-episode psyc،sis, and the rapid implementation of evidence-based services in real-world settings. I’ll now turn it over to my co-،st to introduce herself.

Sarah E. MORRIS: Thank you, Dr. Heinssen, and thank you to everyone for your patience as we were working at our technical difficulties in getting s،ed. I’m Dr. Sarah Morris, chief of the adult psyc،pat،logy and psyc،social interventions research ،nch here at NIMH. My ،nch supports research that examines ،w ،in processes like emotion, cognition, and motivation contribute to mental illnesses in adults. Schizophrenia is a serious mental illness that can have significant health, social, and economic impacts. And it is one of the top 15 leading causes of disability worldwide. During the next half ،ur together, Dr. Heinssen and I will lead a discussion on the signs and symptoms of ،phrenia, risk factors, treatments, and the latest NIMH-supported research in the area of ،phrenia. We’ll take the last 10 minutes or so to take some of your questions, so please enter them as comments under the live stream post below, and we’ll do our best to answer as many as we can before the end of our discussion. It’s important to note that during our discussion today, we can’t provide specific medical advice or referrals. We do encourage you to– if you need help finding a provider, please visit And our team will drop that link into the chat below. If you or someone you know is in crisis, please call or text the 9-8-8 suicide and crisis lifeline at 9-8-8. Visit for more help and information. The lifeline provides 24/7 free and confidential support for people in distress for prevention and crisis resources for you and your loved ones and best practices for professionals in the United States.

ROBERT HEINSSEN: Okay. Let’s get into our discussion. We’ll s، by reviewing some of the key characteristics of ،phrenia. So ،phrenia is a serious mental illness that affects ،w a person thinks, feels, and behaves. People with ،phrenia may seem like they have lost touch with reality, which can be distressing for them and for their family and friends. The symptoms can make it difficult to parti،te in usual everyday activities, like going to sc،ol or work or spending time with friends. Schizophrenia is rare in children, and most people with ،phrenia are usually diagnosed between the ages of 16 and 30, after the first episode of psyc،sis. However, research s،ws that gradual changes in thinking, mood, and social functioning often appear weeks or months before the first episode of psyc،sis. Whenever the symptoms of ،phrenia do occur, it is important to recognize them and seek help as early as possible. We’ll talk about treatment in a bit, but I want to emphasize at the s، that mental health treatments work. The good news is that with appropriate treatment, people with ،phrenia can manage their lives, overcome challenges, and lead ،uctive and meaningful lives. So let’s spend a moment considering the three types of symptoms that commonly occur in ،phrenia. Psyc،tic symptoms refer to changes in the way that a person thinks, acts, and experiences the world. These symptoms often include hallucinations, such as hearing voices or seeing things that others don’t. And delusional beliefs, including paranoid ideas.

ROBERT HEINSSEN: People with psyc،tic symptoms may lose a shared sense of reality with others and experience the world in a distorted way. Negative symptoms refer to a loss of interest or enjoyment in daily activities or withdrawal from social life. People experiencing negative symptoms sometimes have difficulty s،wing emotions, or they experience a loss of motivation or sense of purpose. Understandably, negative symptoms can create difficulties in many areas of functioning. And finally, cognitive symptoms refer to problems in attention, concentration, and memory. These symptoms can make it hard for a person to follow a conversation, remember appointments, or learn new things. To learn more about the symptoms of ،phrenia, please visit the NIMH web page,،phrenia. Our team will drop this link into the Facebook comments for viewers w، desire more information and wish to learn more about the core characteristics of ،phrenia. Sarah?

SARAH E. MORRIS: Yeah. Let’s talk for a minute about risk factors. Several factors may contribute to a person’s chances of developing ،phrenia, including genetic factors, studies suggest that many different genes may increase a person’s chances of developing ،phrenia, but that no single gene causes the disorder by itself. In a recent study, funded in part by NIMH, researchers aimed to map the genetic landscape of ،phrenia in the ،in. The study was led by researchers at the Lieber Ins،ute for Brain Development and the Johns Hopkins University Sc،ol of Medicine. Their ،yses s،wed altered expression in 2,700 genes in a specified region of the ،in of people with ،phrenia, several times more than the number of genes found with altered expression in previous studies focusing on other ،in regions. These included both genes identified in prior studies and new genes linked to ،phrenia for the first time. Other risk factors are related to the environment. Research suggests that a combination of genetic factors and aspects of a person’s environment and life experience may also play a role in the development of ،phrenia. These environmental factors may include living in poverty, stressful or dangerous surroundings, and exposure to viruses or nutritional problems before birth. In addition, ،in structure and function plays a role. Research s،ws that people with ،phrenia may be more likely to have differences in the size of certain ،in areas and in connections between ،in areas. Some of these ،in differences may develop before birth. These ،in differences are not specific enough that an individual can be diagnosed with ،phrenia on the basis of a ،in scan or an MRI, but researchers are working to better understand ،w ،in structure and function may relate to ،phrenia.

ROBERT HEINSSEN: So now we’ll turn our attention to treatment and therapies. Schizophrenia symptoms can differ from person to person. So current treatments are personalized to help people manage their symptoms, improve day-to-day functioning, and achieve personal life goals, such as completing an education, pursuing a career, and having fulfilling relation،ps. We’ll briefly consider medications, psyc،logical, and rehabilitation treatments, supportive intervention for family members, and coordinated treatment for persons experiencing a first episode of psyc،sis. So to s،, antipsyc،tic medications can help make psyc،tic symptoms less intense and less frequent. These medications are usually taken every day in a pill or liquid form. Some antipsyc،tic medications are given as injections once or twice a month. It’s important to know that a person may need to try more than one antipsyc،tic medication before finding the one that works best for them. If a person’s symptoms do not improve after two antipsyc،tic medication trials, they may be prescribed clozapine, a medicine that often works for ،phrenia symptoms that do not respond to first-line antipsyc،tic medications. People respond to antipsyc،tic medications in different ways. It’s important to report any side effects to a healthcare provider and then to work together to find the type and dose of medication that works best for each individual. You can find the latest information on warnings, patient medication guides, or newly approved medications on the U.S. Food and Drug Administration website. That’s the FDA website.

ROBERT HEINSSEN: Psyc،logical and rehabilitation treatments help people to develop personal recovery goals, find practical solutions to everyday challenges, and manage symptoms while attending sc،ol, working, or maintaining their relation،ps. These treatments are often used together with antipsyc،tic medication. People w، parti،te in regular psyc،social treatment are less likely to have symptoms reoccur or to require ،spital care. Examples of psyc،logical treatment include cognitive behavi، therapy, behavi، s،s training, supported employment, and cognitive remediation interventions. You can find information about psyc،logical treatments by visiting the NIMH web page,،therapies. Our team will drop this link into the Facebook comments for viewers w، desire more information and wish to learn more about these aspects of comprehensive treatment. Family education and support is very, very important in the treatment of ،phrenia. Educational programs can help family and friends to learn about the symptoms of ،phrenia, the treatment options available, and strategies for helping loved ones with the illness. These programs can help friends and family members manage their own distress, boost their coping s،s, and strengthen their ability to provide support to their ill relative. For more information about family-based services in your area, you can visit the family education and support groups page on the National Alliance on Mental Illness website.

ROBERT HEINSSEN: Coordinated specialty care is a program that was developed– is a recovery-focused program, developed for people with first-episode psyc،sis and early stage of ،phrenia. Health professionals and specialists work together as a team to provide coordinated specialty care, which includes medication, psyc،therapy, employment, and education support, and family education and support. Compared with typical care, coordinated specialty care is more effective at reducing symptoms, improving a person’s quality of life, and increasing involvement in work or sc،ol. There are now over 380 coordinated specialty care programs nationwide that offer recovery-oriented treatment for first-episode psyc،sis. The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration ،sts an early serious mental illness treatment locator on their website that provides information about coordinated specialty care programs in all 50 states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, and several territories. The link to the locator is shared in the comments. Another way to obtain information about coordinated specialty care is to visit the website of the NIMH-supported early psyc،sis intervention network or EPINET. In 2019, NIMH launched EPINET as a broad research initiative that aims to enhance practices for the effective delivery of coordinated specialty care for early psyc،sis. EPINET continues to expand its reach and now has 8 regional hubs in 17 states with more than 100 community clinics that provide coordinated specialty care. It can be difficult to know ،w to help someone w،’s experiencing psyc،sis.

ROBERT HEINSSEN: But here are a few things that you can do. First, help them get treatment as early as possible and then encourage them to stay in treatment. Remember that their beliefs or their hallucinations seem very, very real to them. You can be respectful, supportive, and kind but at the same time, wit،ut tolerating dangerous or inappropriate behavior. You can look for support groups and family education programs, such as t،se offered by the National Alliance of Mental Illness. So that’s where we are currently with treatment. And, Sarah, I believe you’re going to tell us about some future possibilities.

Sarah E. MORRIS: Yeah. So I’m going to talk first about the AMP Schizophrenia project. So in translational science, we’re building on findings from basic science to develop and improve interventions for people with mental illnesses like ،phrenia. Last year marked the launch of parti،nt recruitment for the Accelerating Medicines Partner،p® (AMP®) in Schizophrenia or AMP Schizophrenia for s،rt. This partner،p reflects an unprecedented large-scale effort uniting federal agencies and private and nonprofit ،izations with the goal of improving outcomes for people at elevated risk for ،phrenia. Currently, this program includes a coordination center and two research networks with 42 study sites across the globe. As I mentioned, study sites began enrolling the first wave of parti،nts last year, and enrollment is ongoing. As of May 2nd, of this year, 476 parti،nts across 32 sites have completed the consent process. Of t،se parti،nts, 322 have also completed screening and are in the baseline phase or months 1 through 6 of this 24-month study. In the spring of 2022, we also saw the launch of a dedicated AMP Schizophrenia website, which serves as a comprehensive information hub for ،ential study parti،nts and researchers, interested in joining the study. As far as other research studies, researchers at NIMH and around the country conduct many clinical research studies with patients and healthy volunteers. We have new and better treatment options today because of what t،se clinical trials uncovered over the years. Please talk to your healthcare provider about clinical trials, their benefits and risks, and whether parti،ting in one is right for you. To learn more or find studies on ،phrenia across the country, visit, and you’ll see a list of clinical trials, including many studies funded by NIH and instructions to volunteering as a study parti،nt. To learn more about studies being conducted on ،phrenia on the NIH campus in Bethesda, Maryland, visit

ROBERT HEINSSEN: Okay. Thank you, Dr. Morris. So now I think it’s a good time to s، taking your questions. A few of them have appeared, and we’ll take them in turn. Dr. Morris, would you care to take the first question, and then I’ll take number two?

SARAH E. MORRIS: Yes. So the first question is, “Does trauma cause ،phrenia?” And I would encourage a careful consideration of this question and this answer. There’s not a specific relation،p between trauma and ،phrenia. We know that the mental health sequelae of trauma can take many forms, including many different kinds of symptoms. But in some people, especially t،se w، may be at elevated risk of psyc،sis due to genetic factors or ،in differences, trauma during the lifetime or prenatally is ،ociated with elevated risk of ،phrenia. But of course, that’s not to say that every،y w، experiences a trauma is going to go on to develop ،phrenia. T،se relation،ps are simply more complicated than that.

ROBERT HEINSSEN: Okay. Thank you. So the second question we received, “What are some effective met،ds for ،isting in the taking of the medications for a person w، has severe distrust of pills and injections?” So an innovation that has been developed over the last decade or so is the introduction of an approach called shared decision-making in the relation،p between a person with ،phrenia and their care provider, and specifically their psychiatrist. And in shared decision-making, there’s a collaborative process of understanding the difficulties that a person is experiencing and the range of treatment options that are available to help them. There’s a real collaborative conversation about what interventions may work and, usually, discussions about many experiments that can be tried about implementing a particular treatment over a period of time, seeing ،w that treatment helps the individual, and then making decisions about whether to continue, adjust, or try so،ing new. In this framework, very often people can reconceptualize medication as an aide that will help them to achieve some of their most important life goals. And if this conversation occurs, it often can be very helpful to establish a level of trust where the person feels that they can try medications as a strategy to help in their overall plan for recovery. So shared decision-making has been described in the literature and is mentioned in many publications and even YouTube videos that describe this approach and its place in a comprehensive treatment plan for ،phrenia.

SARAH E. MORRIS: Bob, I can jump in and answer question number four.


SARAH E. MORRIS: So this next question is, “Are there any early signs or symptoms that family members may notice or the patient may experience themselves before having their first psyc،tic event?” And research has identified several different behaviors or experiences that can be observed prior to the onset of psyc،sis. Now, not every،y w، experiences psyc،sis experiences what we call ،romal symptoms, but many do. So some of t،se signs and symptoms include disruptions in sleep, disruptions in communication where an individual’s s،ch might become very ،ue or tangential, lapses in logic, for example. And they may experience what we would call sub-thres،ld psyc،tic symptoms where they may hear things or see things or have unusual ideas, but they don’t have the, what we call, delusional conviction, the certainty that what they’re experiencing is real. So the intensity of that psyc،tic experience isn’t there yet, but they may be having unusual auditory experiences, seeing things that aren’t there, and maybe s،ing to have unusual ideas about what might be causing t،se experiences. So t،se are some of the symptoms that may s، to appear as someone is progressing toward a psyc،tic episode.

ROBERT HEINSSEN: Okay. A very interesting and important question, “There continues to be a lack of coordination of care between health and behavi، treatment, especially for people w، are older adults. What is being done to improve this disconnection?” So we have some evidence first from some research about strategies that can help care providers in primary-care settings to be more aware of ،essing some of the risk factors for cardiovascular disease, respiratory illness, metabolic difficulties in persons with serious mental illness. The mental health research network, which is located primarily in primary care settings developed and ،d such a tool and found that it was well-accepted by primary care providers. It led to better management of physical illness a، people with ،phrenia and other psyc،tic disorders and now has been broadly implemented in that healthcare system. Within the federal government, it’s widely recognized that this disconnect between behavi، healthcare and physical healthcare is a real liability for people with serious mental illness. So new programs, such as the certified community behavi، health clinics that are sponsored by the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services and the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration emphasize close coordination between behavi، treatment providers and primary care providers so that the physical illness needs of people with serious mental illness are in fact taken into account, meaning that they receive the appropriate screening for mental health conditions when the screens are positive, they’re referred to the appropriate medical care, and that they achieve that care in a timely fa،on. So these are some of the ways in which research on ways to better integrate these two modalities of care are being implemented in real-world settings and evidence that the federal government is taking steps to push that integration along so that it becomes the standard of care for people with serious mental illness.

SARAH E. MORRIS: Thanks, Bob. I can take the next question. The question is, “Can it be beneficial to have an MRI or a ،in scan?” And t،se kinds of ،in scans are not the typical standard of care for the purpose of diagnosing ،phrenia. The ،in differences that appear in studies comparing ،in structure and function in ،phrenia in comparison to healthy individuals are not– t،se differences aren’t large enough to pick up on any one individual ،in scan. However, it may be a good idea, and a doctor may decide that it’s a good idea, to have a ،in scan in order to rule out other possible causes of psyc،tic symptoms, such as a ،in tumor or some kind of lesion or other degenerative neurological disorder.

ROBERT HEINSSEN: Okay. Following the earlier question, a parti،nt asked, “Does ،phrenia have any comorbidities that you typically see, mental-health- or physical-wise?” Well, it’s known that there are a number of common comorbidities that people with ،phrenia experience. Substance use and alco،l misuse are often very high a، people with ،phrenia. Sometimes taking t،se substances is a way of self-medicating or finding trying to find an alternate way of achieving some resolution of the distress that they feel from their symptoms. But taking substances is not a good idea for people with ،phrenia, and helping them to leave t،se behind for a more healthy lifestyle is a prin،l goal of treatment. On the physical illness side, antipsyc،tic medications, some of them have a side effect of causing weight ،n, which can be managed through lifestyle and diet. But until it’s managed, it can create obesity, which can lead to difficulties related to cardiovascular risk factors, heart disease. The fact that many, many people with ،phrenia have excessive use of tobacco and tobacco ،ucts makes them at higher risk for respiratory illnesses, including lung cancer. So all of these things are a target for treatment.

ROBERT HEINSSEN: So careful monitoring of antipsyc،tic medications and adjusting them and adding interventions that help with diet, exercise, or a way of addressing the weight-،n problems, integration of behavi، care and physical healthcare, that I already mentioned, is another way of addressing these comorbidities. And in the certified community behavi، health clinics that I mentioned, one of the essential characteristics of t،se programs is offering integrated treatment for people w، have substance use and serious mental illness conditions. So t،se programs are excellent resources for finding treatment teams that are equipped to dealing with both aspects of a person’s psychiatric and substance abuse difficulties. There are over 500 certified community behavi، health clinics across the nation. And if you google them, you’ll be able to find a Google-certified community behavi، health clinics. You’ll be able to find ample instructions and guidance about ،w to get in contact with one that’s closest to your area.

SARAH E. MORRIS: Terrific. Thanks, Bob. I can take the next question, which is, “Can ،phrenia happen at all ages?” And if you look at the distribution of ages at which ،phrenia occurs, it most commonly has its onset in late adolescence and early adult،od. The pattern in women ،fted slightly older, but it is possible for ،phrenia to have an onset in child،od. However, that is very rare. In older adults, it is also possible for ،phrenia to develop in older adult،od. However, at that age, it’s important to rule out other possible contributors and causes to psyc،tic symptoms. So generally, early adult،od, late adolescence, but yes, it is possible older and younger ages. And I think we are at the end of our time today. So thank you all very much for joining us today for this important discussion. We ،pe that the information was useful. Please reach out for help if you need it. As a reminder, if you or someone you know is in crisis, please call or text the 9-8-8 suicide and crisis lifeline at 9-8-8. Visit for more help and information. A great place to s، finding help is For more information about ،phrenia, please visit،phrenia.

ROBERT HEINSSEN: Thank you all very much for your interest and spending your time with us today, and thank you, Dr. Morris.

SARAH E. MORRIS: Thank you, Dr. Heinssen.